I thought i had heard those same old stories before on other boards REBEL!!
There is a reason you have been banned from other sites. You may want to tone it down.
Placing a 4mnth old pup 8th out of 15 dogs isnt that hard all you need is a 3rd in your cast.
So i see no reason to get on here and brag about your breeding program.If thats all you got, you got a long way to go.
WILLOW CREEK KENNEL