I understand what your saying roy but when someone goes to a trial and wins and if he drives 3 hours and pays his entery by the time he gets done with that trip it had costed him alot of money I know its just a hobby but at least the clubs are maybe breaking even we are really spending alot of money on this and some clubs are doing good and still giveing away nothing but a piece of papper. Maybe the NKC shouldnt take so much from the clubs.