Earl i would have to totally agree with you on the judging style. i've been picked up before ten minutes into the hunt and when i ask why i usually get some lame excuse but since i run little pack its always skirting. if a hound is in the lead running a rabbit and gets picked up for skirting whats he skirting? if he's going around briar patches and not thru them i could understand, other wise its getting the dog out cause what is it they say he's running to much rabbit??????? there's a gap in the rules that lets the judge bring back the hound he likes.