Don't know if you are asking me that question or not,as you replied to my post?As far as i go,i have never attempted to run for hoy,as far as being competitive at hunts,i'm just there to have fun,if i win good,if i don't congrats to the guy who does.If you were asking jeremy,the guy who created the thread,he did make it to the run-off last year and had as good of a chance as anyone else of winning but his hound died right before the u.s. 2011 run off.