Been runnin em with sum pups. He's makin a great pup trainer now. Good hunt. Stays tight in the check and is a tattle tale dog when a pup mite git on trash. We ran 3 rabbits this past wkend. Had a 25min race. 50 min and. 1hr and 10 min race. Man them pups got broke in good. Scent was lil tuff but they kept pushin the rabbit. Had a blast.